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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:09 pm 
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It's like the best part of all dragon bosses ever put together:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Sindragosa_%28tactics%29

http://www.stratfu.com/strats/sindragos ... e-strategy

Cleave, Frost Breath, Tail Whip, Frost Tomb/Frostbomb a la Sapphiron (but you have to break the ice blocks after breath), a spell/melee reflect, a death-grip followed by AE a la Aran, etc.


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I think we've got this worked out up till phase 3 pretty well.

Personally, I may swap in my ony ring (like on Anub) and MAYBE a piece of frost resist gear to help with p3 and give us a little bit of fudge room for healers with unchained magic, ice block, etc. I could even use a resist flask, actually, and I think those are things that would help me soak some stacks up.

When the offtank (either JT or Cane) taunts, they can cycle their cooldowns until they've burned em, then I'll take over again.

Phase 3 is pretty JFM obviously, but I think the camps strat (where the ice tomb target runs 10 yards away left/right from the ranged camp) may be effective PROVIDED we can stay within range. Positioning is clutch for everyone, since even the tanks have to run back and forth a little to lose stacks, and healing range boned us a couple of times (though that was mostly due to ice tombs and unchained magic).

But a very nice night of pulls imo!


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some forum rat advice:

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Bloodlusting early is good if you are hitting the hard enrage. Phase 3 is the tougher phase. However bloodlust is less effective then. Use your judgement.

Have your tanks switch as much as possible (unless there's a big gear discrepancy). This way if a tank gets targeted for frost beacon you have more slack time. A common strategy is for tanks to taunt from her tail. It keeps both of them from getting the frost breath and lets you alternate block positioning safer.

You should usually have two healers free. Whichever healer has the least stacks heals the tank in the open. The other healer ducks behind an iceblock and raid heals.

If you get a healer blocked call for a tank cooldown or healthstones. And break that block quickly. Its ok to break one a little early in this case and make up for it on the next round.

Once the DPS/tanks get into a rhythm of breaking stacks its mainly about the healers communicating their stack counts with the tanks. Good coordination from your healers is key.

Also remind healers that they can cast with the debuff on normal. They just need to make sure they've dumped their stacks before it blows. In the worst case if you're getting close you can soulstone a healer and have them heal until they blow and then pop.

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Tanks should swap as soon as the other Tank's stack is dropped. I'd say 3-4 at most if you are not attempting to overpower the encounter.

You're being overly specific with the ice block position. All it needs to be done, is that the marked player runs like 10 yards away from the raid, gets blocked. The entire raid minus main tank and a couple of healers run behind the block and kill it as soon as it spawns (you will reset the stack if you avoid one pulse, even if you don't see the debuff physically drop off you).

When the next beacon goes out, the marked person will run to where the raid was before, and you repeat the entire process going back and forth from point A and B.

As for healers, designate them so that not every one of them is resetting stacks every block, as that will most likely kill the current tank. For example, you run healer A,B,C. Healer A only resets on odd blocks, B only resets on even blocks, C resets every block. Make amendments if necessary mid fight.

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thread here -- http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... 5995&sid=1

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Parses up from last week's pulls -- http://www.llewville.com/parses/2010

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Arroll and Rosen, how is your expertise?

It needs to be capped (26) for this fight, she parry hastes.

Rhinolicious Wormsteak... I will have some for you guys next time we face her.

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Ask Tam about my expertise :)

Though I'd have to double-check now that I've swapped a few things around.

Edit: Yep, lost a little, but still 44.


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ok cool. Arroll ill have some foods for you if you tank.

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I think we started getting the 'flow' of this fight down last night. I think now it's feasible to talk about what healers dip behind what block to reset stacks, although most of that changes on the fly as it seems one is iceblocked all the damn time :P...calling it out on vent works for me just fine if we want to continue to do that.


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I think our JFM approach for P3 could use a little more coordination and communication, as Rosen is suggesting. And tangentially, I had a dream about feral dps either last night or the night before.

Basically we need the ability to recognize and respond predictably to a variable scenario. I had the impression we were basically hoping for luck and intuition to carry us to victory. Most of the time it wasn't close.


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I agree, Zy. Several (sometimes clashing) suggestions for positioning strategies have been urged for p3. If no one else does, I'll work on a positioning map during the next day or so.

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zyzy wrote:
I think our JFM approach for P3 could use a little more coordination and communication, as Rosen is suggesting. And tangentially, I had a dream about feral dps either last night or the night before.

Basically we need the ability to recognize and respond predictably to a variable scenario. I had the impression we were basically hoping for luck and intuition to carry us to victory. Most of the time it wasn't close.


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Rosencrantz wrote:
zyzy wrote:
I think our JFM approach for P3 could use a little more coordination and communication, as Rosen is suggesting. And tangentially, I had a dream about feral dps either last night or the night before.

Basically we need the ability to recognize and respond predictably to a variable scenario. I had the impression we were basically hoping for luck and intuition to carry us to victory. Most of the time it wasn't close.


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